Bad Press, Olympic Rumours & A Live Event!

Jann Arden  0:12  
That is Russell room playing a lot of guitars. He's playing bass. He's doing the hand claps, and then I'm gonna start singing that. Look at me. There. I am a professional singer, and yet here I am podcasting with Caitlin green, Sarah Burke, Jann Arden, podcast and show. Here we are, folks and welcome. Woo hoo. Welcome to our 209 Patreon members. We are very excited. We love you so much.

Caitlin Green  0:40  
We really do. I'm sending you a big, warm hug. Yeah,

Jann Arden  0:42  
it's very exciting. So yes, we do have a patreon. We want to say that right out of the gate, it's going to help us keep making this podcast better and better and better, and it's going to just get you all sorts of fun things. And I am going to announce right now that our live event is going to be happening October the first. It's a Tuesday. The tickets are going to be going on sale. Don't check yet. Don't be finding your phone and your computer and flipping it open and looking on all the stuff. We're going to be doing an Eventbrite event. So it's going to be really simple. That's my dog, Poppy's agreeing. He's like, yes, I

Caitlin Green  1:13  
want Poppy to come.

Jann Arden  1:14  
Poppy will hopefully be there. And the Patreon members are going to have 48 hours. I believe at first stab to get tickets, there's going to be 125 tickets. It's not a huge event this time, but we want to make sure we don't fuck it up. We just want to make sure you're going to have a glass of Prosecco, you're going to have little gift bags. Caitlin and Sarah and I are going to be there. We're going to be doing it in the universal space. So where my record company is downtown Toronto. I should mention this is in Toronto, and we're going to be there, and we're probably going to do a couple of hours of podcasting and bonus material, and we might even talk to one of you guys. We might haul your asses up there, Q and A, yeah,

Caitlin Green  1:57  
for sure, Q and A,

Jann Arden  1:58  
put you in the Q and A hot seat. So anyway, that's all the the Patreon news. So thank you. You still have time to join up. Maybe that's a good incentive to join up so that you have first dibs at a very, very small exclusive event.

Caitlin Green  2:11  
We're gonna have a dunk tank that Jan has to say, Good,

Jann Arden  2:17  
I will do it. I will do it.

Caitlin Green  2:19  
I know you would. I'm not putting you up to it because you're such a good sport that you would do it. I

Jann Arden  2:24  
love being I do love being dunked. I'll tell you what. I like to dunk a donut, but it's not the same thing. No, speaking of which, I was dunked once in a hot tub full of Lucky Charms and milk, and I told you guys that before.

Caitlin Green  2:35  
What? No, you I've never heard this. I've

Sarah Burke  2:37  
never heard this story. I was in

Jann Arden  2:39  
California doing press for insensitive. This was in 1994 and I went to a morning show, which is very similar to what Caitlin did for many years. And the DJs were in a hot tub filled with milk. Talk about a waste of food, stop. And people were coming. They were donating, which is a good idea, to some kind of something. You bought a box of Lucky Charms, and you poured it into the hot tub full of hot milk bubbling around. I had to get into this thing and then sing along to myself, what when they played my song? And here she is, Jan Arden, she's got a song racing up the charge, insensitive, he probably said insatiable For fuck sakes. And here she is, and she's gonna Jan sing along. So I'm just like, really should have known so embarrassed in this as as people are coming by, dumping in boxes of cereal, what

Caitlin Green  3:31  
in the Fresh Hell is that? Why did did they tell you in advance that it's a morning promo? Did they tell you? No, that's so that's crazy, as someone who worked in morning radio, albeit not on a show of that nature, like we weren't like shock jock radio, that this was shocked. That's crazy. Do you remember their names?

Jann Arden  3:50  
Oh, who knows. Let's go with bubbles and Freddie.

Caitlin Green  3:53  
I don't know if you remember on Parks and Recreation, the show starring Amy Poehler, there was the local shock talk radio show called I ruin the douche and it was so accurate to that type of radio Oh, it's just, it's not, it's why. It's why legacy media is suffering the way that it is, quite frankly. Well,

Jann Arden  4:12  
we did that all across the country. We did it from New York to California and every little town in between. I remember Russ and I stopping because we were driving a lot of the stuff. We were Him and I are just in a car because he was playing guitar and I was playing guitar. We kept it really simple. But we went, we were, we were in Alabama, and we went into a little breakfast place really early in the morning. I think we had to be at the station at quarter to 6am so we went to a 24 hour place in Alabama, and Russ ordered ham and eggs and toast and hash browns, as you do, but on his ham, the ham was in a disc, and it covered this whole oval plate with a bone in the middle of the ham. I had never seen that in my life on the outside of the ham was the skin. Him with hair on it. No, yes, ew, what? But these are the random memories I have of doing press.

Caitlin Green  5:10  
Oh, gross. And

Jann Arden  5:12  
he's like,

Sarah Burke  5:13  
I'm he's like, I'm

Caitlin Green  5:13  
just gonna so mine, it's official,

Jann Arden  5:15  
is that I said that's the hair on the ham. So it was a very rustic ham, but he saw it around it, and I'm gonna be sick. I think I just had French toast or something. Anyway, I Yes, smart move. I don't know why I was speaking to that. We were talking about me being dunked in the dunk tank, but listen, like I said, incentive, get your Patreon $5 a month. What can you get for $5 a month? Not even a box of tampons. Tampons are like, nine bucks

Sarah Burke  5:43  
is more than $5

Caitlin Green  5:44  
and I want to say that this is going to be a case of today's price ain't going to be tomorrow's price. You get in well the well, the price is

Jann Arden  5:50  
what it is. You know, next year we might have to go $6 we don't know. Never know. We don't know what's happening. Sarah and Caitlin and I were talking about another podcast or group. Most podcasts do do a Patreon because, let's face it, they're not as popular as me, and I'm kidding, but you know, people, there's lots of expensive there's production expenses, and there's lots of things that go along with making these things. And for the most part, people listen for nothing. You click onto your Spotify, or your I heart or iTunes, and there it is. But Caitlin was saying that these people were charging like, $70 for their Patreon.

Caitlin Green  6:27  
Yeah, they have tiers of membership, and their highest membership includes, like, certain benefits and added content and, like video content. It's all something that you can build towards, like as a show. But yeah, it was 70, I believe it's $74 a month. And they call that's a lot there. It's a lot. They call them their cult members, because they're the people who are willing to pay

Jann Arden  6:48  
okay. Thanks for experimenting.

Caitlin Green  6:53  
I got a round of applause for cult members. Two cheers for cults. We love them. But they also get their names shouted out at the end of the show and the host make their names very personalized. And I'm telling you, like, these people's names have warmed their way into my head now. So like, your $74 is pretty well spent. So

Jann Arden  7:13  
how would you say my name if I was a $74 member? Give me an example.

Caitlin Green  7:18  
Like, they might call you like, I would think of Jan ardeen. Like, I would call you Jan, our dean. Like, of like, our Dean's, like, accessories, okay, or something like that. Like, they would just play with it a little bit. Oh, thank you, Sarah, it's great. I'll be here all night. Your server,

Unknown Speaker  7:31  
thank you. How's your potato? How's that?

Caitlin Green  7:35  
But I know they have, like, I forget what they like. There's one woman who she is her name, and then realtor. And they always yell realtor, because she like included that in her name. And it's just, it's, it's just very, it's crazy, and it works.

Jann Arden  7:50  
Well. We're excited. 209 members. Let's carry on. We got a lot to talk about in the show today. First and foremost, out of the box, traveling with will. So will had a birthday last week, and you guys were traveling. We missed you last week, by the way, Caitlin, because you guys were in PEI then you were in Halifax. Tell us a little bit about traveling with a youngster, because he's not a baby no more.

Unknown Speaker  8:14  
He's like, No,

Jann Arden  8:15  
now you got, isn't he? At the age we have to pay for him the next time he's on a plane. Or does he get the whole year of two?

Caitlin Green  8:20  
No. So when they turn two, they have to have their own seat. So he flew with us as a two seater on the way there and on the way home, he had his big his big boy seat. Oh, he graduated, and I was really concerned about how he would handle his own seat. Like, I was, like, he'll have the seat, but he'll probably still want to sit on mom. Like, that was my guess. He

Jann Arden  8:39  
looked pretty chill from the picture,

Caitlin Green  8:42  
I posted a video of him. He was like a businessman

Jann Arden  8:44  
with a Bluetooth thing in his ear, like taking calls.

Caitlin Green  8:50  
He was boots up on the seat, having his bottle, like leaning back, like arm up, like he was a truck driver and he was watching his Miss Rachel, and he charmed everyone on this flight. Like when people walked on the flight they saw him, he did his little chubby hand wave. He would give them a wink. He's like looking at the people behind him on the seats. They're playing peek a boo, and it's these, like kind of weary looking travelers. Our flight had been canceled and then moved to a later time, so everyone's tired, like some people have been at the airport for ages, and I really love watching him visibly brighten just about every single person's day. And I will say that by and large, I feel like the club of parents who are traveling with children, it's like you're part of a team. You're part of a you've joined the army together. You're in the same group of you know, whatever they call that when you're in the army, you're, what do they call that? Like a battalion? Yeah, so everyone sticks together. You're like, looking out for each other. And again, overwhelmingly, people are really nice to children on flights. I know we get it, like we hear a lot about people complaining about kids on flights, but I have experienced quite the opposite. I don't

Jann Arden  9:56  
mind kids on flights. I fly so much. I fly with kids. I've, I've held a person's baby, you know, while they go to the bathroom. I mean, this is after you've been chatting with them for an hour and and I think I offered this woman, this was like, four or five years ago. I said, Oh, I'll hang on to I mean, it was a baby. Baby wasn't like, a person looking at me, going, you're not my mother. This kid was so she was just, like, handed me this kid and went to the bathroom because she was going to take bathroom because she was going to take her with her today. I'm like, no, no, girls bathroom. Oh, yeah, exactly what do you there's not even room in the sink to place a child. No,

Caitlin Green  10:31  
you're holding the kid while you hover peace, like it would be a nightmare.

Jann Arden  10:34  
I feel, I really feel for people flying with children. Now, did you get to board first? Because they say, people with small children, you get to go on first. That's when I always want a baby.

Caitlin Green  10:46  
They no longer do that from these airlines. Yeah. Anyways, when you hit like, a certain number of miles for Air Canada, you get like, like E upgrades. So we had like a, like a free upgrade. So we actually got to fly business class, which, like, you know, and they're older planes, so you

Jann Arden  11:03  
will and Kyle all went business, yep. So you were beside will, and Kyle was beside you in the aisle. Yep, okay, and

Caitlin Green  11:10  
I didn't realize, like, we had been accruing these e upgrades, like, Kyle didn't even know, like, what, like, we didn't really clock what they were. And I was like, Do you know how we could have been flying business for many a trip, but anyways, and like, out to the Maritimes, like, if it's available, if it's available, exactly, it has to be on the flight, like, it has to be on the physical plane. And don't imagine a pod here everybody, like, it's not, that's not happening to Halifax or PDI, yeah, but, but it was great. And, like, the service was fantastic, and the staff were amazing. And so we did get to load in first, and we really whittled down our So shout out to Air Canada. Shout out to them. They were great. They

Jann Arden  11:44  
get shit on a lot, but I love Air Canada. It's my favorite. Having said that, though, I just did a little quick trip to Toronto, went to a Blue Jays game with a couple of friends. We flew Porter, dirt cheap. It was awesome. Yeah, I like Porter. We had free Wi Fi the whole way. And I'm talking Wi Fi where you can stream Instagram, yes, where you can look at Tiktok, or you can do whatever. When you do normal like airplane WiFi, like, I will say, Air Canada, you can't get shit. You're lucky if you can

Sarah Burke  12:12  
text the waste of even filling out the thing to have WiFi. Why bother? But

Jann Arden  12:16  
on this, on Porter, you can see outside the aircraft, the big white satellite dome collector dealy that is on top of the plane, and it was fantastic. They went by two or three times with drinks. Free. Shortbread cookies free. I think they had pretzels. They had

Sarah Burke  12:37  
wine some here when you fly Porter, yeah, free drinks too. Everyone

Jann Arden  12:40  
got a free glass of white or red wine or a beer, and in a glass. Well, I got a paper cup for my I had a water and I just got a little paper cup, but it was way better than flare. It was better than rouge, it was better than air. Transat, if you want to do a really cost effective flight, if you're going to Toronto, Air Canada can ding you upwards of eight, $900 for domestic economy flight. This was 425, 450, round

Sarah Burke  13:08  
trip. Round Trip, that's what Same with me coming to you. I got a good deal like that too. Yeah, Porter's round

Jann Arden  13:13  
trip, so you know. And it fluctuates. If you're booking the day before, yeah, you might end up paying 525, round trip, folks, that's still 250, a direction. I paid $50 for my suitcase while my friend Lisa did. She was just like, I'm paying for your suitcase, damn it. We're staying in your condo. But, yeah, try it. Try pry Porter, and

Caitlin Green  13:35  
also factor in that you're flying in and out of city center. So if you're a downtown Torontonian, or you're staying in downtown Toronto, it saves you that giant haul in from Pearson, which we landed in Pearson. Oh, you landed Pearson. Okay, okay,

Sarah Burke  13:47  
they do both now, yeah, they do both. But we,

Jann Arden  13:50  
we landed in Pearson and I that may have been my bad Caitlin. I may have booked it that way. I probably did city Island was still

Sarah Burke  13:57  
better, though, honestly, because I flew Porter via Pearson for Calgary. It was still better than my last few West jet flare, whatever experience, terrible. And then next week, oh, next week, we're

Caitlin Green  14:07  
going to Washington. Where

Sarah Burke  14:08  
did you go next week? At Washington for a podcast conference, and I'm flying Porter through the the city airport that you're talking about Caitlin, and that's so easy, too, like that, especially if you have nexus, which I know we've kind of talked about before. Max says, in and out,

Jann Arden  14:23  
I love my Nexus, and I did use it, and Lisa and Bev did have to stand in the other line. I do feel bad, because when I got up to Nexus, there was a woman ahead of me with her friend, and she said, My friend doesn't have nexus, but can I take her with me? Yeah, go ahead. I'm thinking, do I even tell them that I could have taken them with me? I

Sarah Burke  14:42  
ask every time, and the answer changes every goddamn Okay, yeah, in the pandemic, they they stopped allowing friends, but you could before the pandemic, then after the pandemic, they said, Oh, we're not doing that anymore. But on certain occasions, they have let me, I like, get your. Straight. I

Jann Arden  15:00  
don't understand. I think we have to start calling it AP and a and after pandemic and BP before pandemic. Moving on, there's lots of interesting things to talk about. So the boxer and the Olympics who had who faced a lot of vitriol, a lot of you guys already know the story. IMANI Kalif Algerian, female boxer, born female, does not identify as a transgender or anything of the sort. She she's a woman from Algeria. She faced so much vitriol, so much hatred of people accusing her of being a male that she didn't qualify as a female for the it's all a bunch of shit, to be honest, she was a woman who was blessed with a lot of strength physically. That is just her biology. And of course, she made very quick work of most of the female boxers. And in fact, she went on to win a gold medal in the Olympics, while she is now suing people like J, K, Rowling, Elon, Musk, Donald Trump, Twitter, X, yeah. Twitter, x, so it was a sort of a blanket lawsuit, but she's literally going on after some people, like I said, you know, JK, who basically said hateful things to her. This photograph is basically you looking at a man who just got away with punching a woman in the face. That was J K's comment. And Trump went on to say, I'm going to make sure that men don't get to compete in women's sports, using her photograph from the Olympics. So she's she's suing X, and has named some of these people in the lawsuit. So it's going to be any thoughts on that. I

Caitlin Green  16:42  
hope she wins just like she won the Olympics. Because, honestly, it's crazy to me. This was a Russian disinformation campaign that started against her, because there was a Russian run. I think it's like the International Boxing it's called the IBA International Boxing Association, something like that, a league which has now been discredited. And like no one believes them. No one listens to them. But they basically said that they did a test on her years ago where there was an XY chromosome found in like her test, and tried to claim this about another time when he's boxer. And first of all, they've never produced the test or the methodology behind it ever. And it's also not entirely uncommon to have that chromosome, if you have certain, you know, medical conditions or just like a hormone, like, there's lots of reasons why you might have that happen. We don't even know if it did happen. And so that was sort of discredited. But then it's like it caught on, because you have the vice presidential candidate running alongside Donald Trump, JD Vance, saying you've seen a man pummel a woman in the ring, and like, Imani Kalief has been beaten by women before. It's not as if she hasn't been beaten by women. And they're trying to make it sound like this is a man who's running around boxing rings beating up women and so, yeah, I'm so ridiculous,

Jann Arden  17:55  
like they literally played her like she's got a penis under there. It's insane, and I hope she wins, too. Caitlin,

Caitlin Green  18:01  
it's insane behavior. It's just like, it's just such a strange thing. And again, you have to ask yourself, why are they doing this? Like, what is the intent here? And it's just because this just if this fires up all the people who you know make up their base, and it's you're heading into a US election. And this serves their messaging. This serves their galvanizing of their base, and that's why they're doing it. So I

Sarah Burke  18:25  
would love to hear a conversation between Imani and the fellow boxer who also went through this from Taiwan, Lin Yuting, like, how interesting would it be to hear how together they're dealing with all

Jann Arden  18:37  
that? Well, I love the fact that she's lodged a complaint in Paris, and her lawyers are very serious about it. And I think the discouraging thing for me is, you know, obviously, so many people love the Harry Potter series. It was a phenomenon, a global phenomenon. There's no doubt about it, the movies, the books, the theme parks, the billions and billions and billions that these beloved characters have generated over the last is it 20 years now that this has been going on, it seems like it seems like it never. Was not here Harry Potter, but JK has been so outspoken about transgender people and their place in society and where they should and should not be, and I just don't get where she's coming from. You know, she just keeps hitting the idea of men going into women's washrooms, or transgender men or women going into like various prisons. And her examples are so outlandish, and so they're very lazy, but they are lazy, and they're things that obviously need to be dealt with on an individual basis, and not this big blanket statement,

Caitlin Green  19:51  
it's also statistically inaccurate too, right? When you think about it, it's like the transgender population is at much greater risk of being. On the receiving end of violence and discrimination and assaults and sexual assaults than we are from them. So we're statistically again, just we're the risk to them versus them being the risk to us. So I don't I think it's fear mongering. I don't think it makes a lot of sense. I don't think it's founded in logic. And I also love that, did you see that photo or video that was going around of her she was doing some sort of like a video from her her house, and there's visible black mold in the bathroom that she's in or the room she's in, and everyone's like, wait a minute, has black mold infected her brain? Like, are we dealing with like, is this? Is this, you know, is this going to be some sort of Victorian era illness that we discover because she's just living in a castle alongside a bunch of black mold.

Sarah Burke  20:46  
But correct me, if I'm wrong, like, when you're an author and an author, like someone this big, you would think that your brain is capable of understanding fluid and changing things. Like, that's where I don't understand how someone so creative is missing this part of me, don't

Caitlin Green  21:04  
forget that. I think it was like, what is it? The one Asian character that existed in the Harry Potter universe is named Cho Chang, yeah. I mean, creative. She may be creative in all areas, you know, maybe not, like maybe not. Yeah, two things can be true once. Well,

Jann Arden  21:24  
I think she's going to lose. I think Elon's going to use it lose. It's who knows what's going to happen Donald Trump, but watching that dumpster fire these days him, anything he does, anytime he opens his mouth, any anything that they're doing, it has added such a sense of enjoyment to this election season. I can't even tell you the joy that I am deriving from what the hell is happening. It's, it's, it's comical, yeah,

Caitlin Green  21:55  
it's definitely popcorn worthy. You.

Jann Arden  22:05  
Other things that are going on. And I, and I did read this, Caitlin sent me this article, the drama surrounding the cast of it ends with us. So they're calling it similar to the barbenheimer phenomenon when we had these Oppenheimer and Barbie movies, they were exploding at the box office. Well, they're saying that Deadpool, which is Ryan Reynolds big movie, Deadpool three and his wife, Blake Lively, has adapted this very, very, very popular movie. It ends with us and that these two movies are going to recreate that box office success. Now, having said that this thing that you sent me, Caitlin was one of the worst reviews I think I've ever read my life this so talk to me a little bit about what the drama is with these people. Apparently, the guy that directed it and Blake Lively can't stand each other. Okay,

Caitlin Green  23:01  
so I don't know if you recall, but there was that press tour for Don't worry, darling. This was the movie that was directed by Olivia Wilde that starred Harry Styles, yes, Florence Pugh, Chris Pine, anyway, so there was allegedly drama in some way within the cast. Of course, Olivia Wilde and Harry Styles were romantically involved. So the the nature of the red carpet appearances by the cast, and whether or not they got along or followed each other or whatever, the red carpet press leading up to the release of the film almost eclipsed the release of the film itself, which is now exactly what's happening with it ends with us. This is based on a novel about about domestic violence by an author named Colin Hoover, who, again, this is just my editorial. I am now upset that I'm even aware of her work, because I've just started perusing it, and it's not for me. So I'm I'm blamed Blake Lively for that one, but So Justin Baldoni is the producer and the director, and then Blake Lively is also a producer on an executive producer. I think Ryan Reynolds might be also, and because they're this powerhouse Hollywood couple, yeah, let's start out by saying that there's a rabid fan base of Colleen Hoover, you know, readers, some of which I'm likely just offended. I'm sorry about that, but they were really, really anticipating this film, and it deals with domestic violence, so it's a very serious topic, so there's a lot of attention going into this, like we know, and because it's Blake Lively and blah, blah, blah. So then everyone notices that no one in the cast follows Justin Baldoni, the director and producer. It's bizarre, and he also stars in it. So he stars in it opposite Blake Lively. So

Jann Arden  24:40  
they're not following his social media, no

Caitlin Green  24:42  
and whenever they're asked about him on red carpets, like what it was like working with him, and no one answers. No one answers it. They dance around it, and she isn't seen in any photos with him doing any press. They're not like the appearances that they had together were almost non existent. Stand like they were very limited and so now everyone so far, the dominant rumor is that Baldoni was quote, unquote, creatively railroaded by Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds during the movie's post production. Now, other people believe that he did something to make her uncomfortable on set, and that's why the rest of the cast has sided with her and unfollowed him, and they don't seem to have a relationship with him. So now there's like, all this speculation, life

Jann Arden  25:25  
is so boring.

Caitlin Green  25:26  
I know that's why that's the truth. Honestly, the true takeaway is that our regular, boring lives are probably much more peaceful. But as this reviewer pointed out, again, the estimation of this movie is that it's like doing well at the box office, but it's not being critically very well received. It's not like necessarily, quite good. It's just got some star power. Yeah, it has some star power. But then also, Blake Lively, as she's doing her promo for this movie, is doing things like promoting her hair care line on red carpets where they're asking you about domestic violence, and some of her answers have been very flippant. When she's asked what she loves about the character, it's very like, Oh, I love her fashion. Oh, and then it's like, you know, what do you what's so meaningful to you tonight about being on this red carpet? And she's like, that I'm wearing J Lo's dress from 1994 like, she's giving very flippant, kind of seemingly unaffected, disconnected from the themes answers, whereas Justin Baldoni is very like in on it, and he's talking about domestic violence and saying, like, this movie isn't important to me. It's important to domestic violence survivors and yada yada. So I think the general public has received this as Blake Lively cringe, Justin Baldoni not so cringe, which is interesting, because she and Ryan Reynolds are so beloved that it's been like the Internet has taken on a side that I like everybody

Jann Arden  26:45  
else. It's like when you see people that rise so high and that can do no wrong, I feel like the general population, the troll population, is always looking for a reason to pull these people down. So I'm definitely gonna go see the movie A I love Blake Lively. I really do. I think, you know, she's entrepreneurial. I do love her and Ryan together. I think they're such a success story. And sorry, I'm gonna cheer on people that have not really bolstered and supported so many different industries. You know, Ryan's involved in sports. You know he took that Welsh team from oblivion and bankruptcy and has turned them into this phenomenon. And they do so many good things, you're not going to

Caitlin Green  27:31  
find a Canadian in the world who will discredit Ryan Reynolds like it won't. It will

Jann Arden  27:35  
not happen. They both are just I just love what they do, I will cheer them on as long as they're walking the planet. And I also take all this shit with a grain of salt from her movie. And I know for a fact not that I've walked a lot of red carpets, and not that I'm anywhere near a Blake Lively status in life, but I know that sometimes you are asked bizarre questions like, What are you wearing? Can you fuck off? This is a bra from winners and pants that used to be my mother's like, I've often said things that are flippant and kind of silly myself on there. I've answered questions because they're just looking who the next person is coming down the line, and I don't think they're always the most respectful journalists, like they're there to get their sound bites, and they're Yeah, they want to get out. So I think the

Caitlin Green  28:27  
criticism of her has almost been the reverse, though, where she is being asked serious questions about domestic violence, and her answers are very here's what I'm wearing. No, but that's

Jann Arden  28:34  
what I mean. You just get sick of that stuff. You you just want to have fun. It's a it's a celebratory night. So anyway, the only

Caitlin Green  28:43  
thing I'll say, like, again, I don't know what happened. Like, I'm literally just telling you what the rumors are online. I have no idea what actually happened. I will say that even if I was super friggin sick of being asked the same questions that were kind of heavy, like, the tone of them is heavy because the tone of the movie is heavy. I would have expected that at this stage in her career, and as long as she's been a public figure, I did expect a little bit better media training from her. Like, I think that some of the answers and everything just, it just didn't land. And that can happen. Like, I'm not saying that she's some bad person. That's the most I'll I'll critique it where I'm like, oh, that's just like, that's just

Sarah Burke  29:18  
bad, knowing how far her hands were into the film, in terms of, like, being an executive producer and all of that, I would be interested to hear how it was received from a like, domestic abuse survivor. I'm gonna ask my friend who does that podcast on the network, yeah, see what she

Caitlin Green  29:32  
thinks that would be, oh, my god, ask her, yeah, dying to know Yes,

Sarah Burke  29:35  
or we can ask her. Well, I'm

Jann Arden  29:37  
very my curiosity has really peaked to go see it. Yeah, not that I want to see anyone being abused or assaulted or anything like that, but I'm interested in why this story is taken on what it's taken on. But, yeah, I love them. I just want them to be on the show someday, and if we say shit, then I'm not gonna. I

Caitlin Green  30:00  
really love Ryan Reynolds, and they've done so much stuff for sick kids, and they do seem like just such a wonderful happy couple. So it is. This has been surprising, but it's not unusual in the world of entertainment for the Internet to pick up a plot line that they create and run with it. So I'd love to know what actually happened, but I will say the fact is, nobody follows this director, and nobody will talk about him when they were asked on a red carpet. So something did happen, I just don't know what the heck it is. We're

Jann Arden  30:26  
gonna find out. Caitlin, our entertainment reporter, is going to get back to you next week. Sarah is going to do some digging. We have a person doing a podcast on the women in media podcast network that is going to fill in some of these

Sarah Burke  30:41  
guests called ladies take control. Katie Maris, ladies take control

Jann Arden  30:45  
so you can you can listen to it after you listen to us today.

Quick little shout out here to my friend in New Zealand, Liz Parsons, Liz did a really, really charming Instagram story this morning, and then I'll send it to you girls. But she was talking about, I have a favorite podcast, and it is Jan Arden podcast in Canada. She's a singer songwriter, author. She was talking about us and but she said At night she likes to listen to the birds, just she loves. That's her podcast. Is nature. She walks out, walks her neighborhood, and you can imagine what the birds sound like in New Zealand on this particular clip. I'm like, where are you in the middle of the jungle? You know, it was just like, get into the house, run coming after you.

Caitlin Green  31:39  
She's very relaxed. It's like her meditation, and we're afraid,

Jann Arden  31:42  
yeah, she's just loving it. And also, speaking of all things, podcast, we do have a new sponsor that we love now, listen, I have loved Cove long before Cove loved me. Okay, I'm just gonna put that out there. And they are part of our team now. They've stepped up, and they're like, You know what, Jan and Caitlin and Sarah, we love you too. So they have sent Caitlyn and Sarah and I a gurney of sodas. And I am not kidding you. It's crazy. It is nuts. So I have before you today. This is the orange I

Caitlin Green  32:19  
have the ice pop.

Jann Arden  32:20  
This is the cherry

Sarah Burke  32:23  
cream soda.

Jann Arden  32:24  
So we thought, Wait, I'm

Caitlin Green  32:26  
gonna, I'm gonna ASMR open this. Okay, okay,

Sarah Burke  32:30  
oh yeah, yeah. So yeah, a couple things we can go through. They are Canada's first all natural zero sugar soda. One, Berlin probiotics. Well, it

Caitlin Green  32:44  
was an Austin Powers reference in 2024

Sarah Burke  32:51  
and they're organic, and they want to promote gut health, like it's a way to have, you know, a treat, but it's like guilt free.

Jann Arden  32:58  
It really is. Listen, if you've got kids and you don't want them drinking, them drinking diet, anything like all that crap, that you can ingest, the colors, the everything that these are really on so this is Sarah. What do you got going there? You've put, you've put a cola on ice. Oh

Sarah Burke  33:13  
my god, I'm obsessed. I've been having one of these flavors on ice every day. Hot Tip. Combine the lime and the COLA for like, a really fresh lime. Okay, because I have the lime here, you should combine them. It's the best thing ever. Okay, so lime in the cold. No, okay, see ingredients. I just want to tell you pickle you've got, oh, that one's good, 70 milligrams of sodium. It's only 3% of your daily vitamin C, 80%

Caitlin Green  33:37  
Oh, yeah,

Jann Arden  33:38  
there's 80% of your vitamin C into 72

Caitlin Green  33:41  
milligrams of vitamin C in

Sarah Burke  33:42  
Yes, and all that's in there is some natural flavor, stevia extract, Himalayan, salt, you know, some of the normal things that you would find that have probiotics. I'm not going to try and say those words, Bacillus subtilis and absorbic acid, which is your vitamin C. I

Jann Arden  33:58  
think what you meant to say was Phyllis Diller, yes. Yes, no, um, this is delicious. Okay, childhood racing back into my childhood, those popsicles, those three colored popsicles, the rocket that looked exactly like this. Can't the rocket. I

Sarah Burke  34:14  
haven't tasted this yet. I saved it for you guys today because this is their new summer flavor.

Caitlin Green  34:19  
This is my favorite one so far. Delicious. Doesn't it taste like it? The

Sarah Burke  34:24  
little popsicle is right there on the Candida.

Jann Arden  34:28  
I can't tell you how weird that flavor is. You know, when you just sort of go back in time, I feel so nostalgic these days. Suddenly, you're 10 years old exactly, and you guys might be a little young for this, because I'm 20 odd years older than these women.

Sarah Burke  34:44  
I thought you were 21 total. Okay, fine,

Jann Arden  34:47  
let's just leave it there. Okay, can we just leave it there? The thing that is, as I get older, you're gonna get older with me. So I'm very, very relieved about that. But I remember, and you guys may remember this, imagine going to cottage con. Tree, you know, a middle of a hot July day, and you go to the little confectionary or your what do you guys call it convenience stores? We call them confectionaries. They always had the pot machines outside the stores, like rain or shine, and you would lift the lid and pull a glass bottle up through these steel gates that would open. Do you remember that at all? I never had glass bottles. And then the opener was on the outside of the pot machine. The bottles were massacred from pulling them out, so they got recycled. Recycled, recycled. I don't know why, but this flavor I'm racing through a time tunnel, and these guys also have cream soda, root beer, ginger ale, orange, lime, cherry.

Sarah Burke  35:44  
It literally tastes grape. I wanted to have this with vanilla ice cream to make a root beer float. I just didn't have any ice cream. So good,

Caitlin Green  35:52  
so good. Okay, we'll

Jann Arden  35:53  
give the I'm gonna try the cherry.

Sarah Burke  35:54  
Try the cherry. Okay, I have to say this about the ice pop while you're tasting okay. So I was at a get together with all my friends with children yesterday, like our call it summer reunion. We can only see each other, like quarterly. It feels like these days, all the kids loved the ice pop flavor, and the second best was raspberry.

Jann Arden  36:14  
But they loved the ice pop flavor. Cove has raspberry, yeah, and orange. And, like I said, I got another delivery yesterday that went to my Deans because I live out in the country. She's like, you got more Cove sodas? I said, What in Jesus's name is going on anyway? The cherry is fantastic. It tastes like BC cherries. This also would be very good in a float. They

Sarah Burke  36:37  
have a DR Cove. Like a cherry, they have a

Caitlin Green  36:39  
DR Cove. I'm looking at my stack. There's, like, there's root beer. I'm looking at your stack too. There's orange cream soda. Dr Cove, which is like, Dr Pepper, then there's grape, grape fruit, then lemon, lime, grapefruit, ice, pop. Yes, there's grapefruit. So, like, there's a lot. And I will, I would imagine I have yet to try this, but I'm going to Princeton, wood, county for, like, a long weekend adventure with friends. Next weekend, I'm gonna bring these and mix them with vodka, and I bet you it would be so good. Yes,

Sarah Burke  37:09  
I

Jann Arden  37:10  
think, I think they support that they better. Cove, thank you. Thank you for your generosity. For one thing, where

Sarah Burke  37:18  
you can find it, we should say, Go, yes,

Jann Arden  37:20  
do it. You've got a list. So they've they've got variety packs

Sarah Burke  37:23  
in Costcos in Canada and the US right now. And we have some exciting news about where they're launching coming soon. But if you go to janard and pod.com We've got a cove page up there, and there's a little store locator so you can find out, like, if the Sobeys near you has it because they are in other places. The first

Jann Arden  37:41  
time I found these sodas, which was probably over a year ago, I found them in Co Op. You know where they get you going into the checkouts. They have the gum and the candy bars, and they have magazines, and sometimes they have a couple of balloons tied onto the cash register. There was these Cove sodas sitting there and and very clever Co Op had them sunk in ice. So it was last summer, and I'm thinking, I need a I'll just get that. I didn't even know what it was, and because I gave up Diet Coke, I don't know years ago. Now, I think I've had a couple over the years that I've broken down, but it's just not great for you to drink it. So I was always looking for a pop to drink, and so I love this. And it's not aspartame, guys, it's stevia.

Caitlin Green  38:26  
And normally I'm not a sweet like drink person. I'll have a flavored soda water, but without any sugar. But I will say that sometimes, and especially in the summer, you do kind of want one, like, if I'm having popcorn or if I'm having something salty. I do want something sweet kind of offset it. And this is good because it doesn't have any calories in it, so I don't feel bad about that, and I feel good about what is in it. You know,

Sarah Burke  38:49  
if you're someone who kind of likes like the tang or the, like, the citrus side of things, then you want to go for like, the lemon, lime or the cherry. But if you, if you are craving like sweet, go like, root beer, cream soda, ice, pop. Yeah, the ice pop is great. They're all good. You know that rule in baseball, like, if you strike out, you're supposed to bring your team beer. Have you guys heard? Yeah? So, I mean, I do that a lot, but last week, I brought a whole lot of Cove sodas with me, and I was like, grab whatever you want. I mean, if you strike out, if you're not performing for your team, you're on beer duty for the next week. Oh, yeah, so I just brought a bunch of covid. I was like, Please, everybody, enjoy. I live in a one bedroom condo. I don't know where to put all this stuff.

Jann Arden  39:28  
Well, they're stacked in my pantry, and I'm not giving them away to people. I'm going to hoard them. But I I do a couple. I do like, a couple every day. I do one a day, for sure. Once again, Cove, you know where to find them. You can go on to our page. You can go into the show notes. You can find more information about them. It's about if you've got kids or not kids. I'm a big kid. I'm always going to be

Caitlin Green  39:53  
a big vodka, right? You can add to vodka. I highly recommend it alongside skinny pop popcorn. I'm just going to say. That's my snack right now is I'll have a cove soda with a skinny pop popcorn and, like, maybe some olives. And that's my snack with olives, no like, as another option off to the side, because I'm trying to go low calorie, because I'm back on Noom.

Jann Arden  40:13  
Why are you back on Noom?

Caitlin Green  40:15  
I went ham on biscuits and lobster while we were away, and I never watched what I get on vacation, because that's not fun. Yeah, did you

Jann Arden  40:23  
put it on some weight? Oh, yeah, big time. So what's big time to you? Listen, I don't want to, you don't have to answer this, but what's big time is it three pounds to you?

Caitlin Green  40:32  
Well, big time to me again, like, big time to me. And I'm like, I'm now people are going to hear me say the number and be like, show the hell up. Which is, like, which

Jann Arden  40:38  
is, no, I'm not. I don't want to know what you weigh, but for you on a two week vacation, if you put on five pounds, is that crazy? Yeah,

Caitlin Green  40:45  
like that. You know that that's gonna I know what that will take to get off. And so that's like, oh, that's gonna be work. But I also wasn't necessarily being super cautious with what I was eating before we went away, either. I've been like, have? I've been living my life. And so I gained, I've gained about 10 pounds, I would say more than, like, what my goal, like, baseline is, which is not, and it's not an unrealistically low number. We talk about weight on the show for sure, yeah. And so I was just like, Oh, I'm gonna go back on a Noom kick. Because that's why I like that is I can just start tracking what I'm eating and be more conscious of it. And I noticed that the weight comes off fairly easily because, like, I am active also. So

Jann Arden  41:21  
Noom is an app. It's N, O, O, M, they should also sponsor us, by the way, yeah, and it's calorie counting. Maybe I should go on Noom. I don't know. I In a perfect world. I would love to probably lose 15 pounds. That's not, you know, I think in a perfect world, but my happiness is not contingent on that. And I'm quite. I like how my clothes look. I'm I'm all, you know, I'm in there, I'm in the I'm in the hot tub, I'm putting on bathing suits, you know? I mean, I'm not, but I think as I'm getting older, I don't want that 15 pounds to turn into 50 pounds. That's and

Caitlin Green  42:00  
so that's what happens. And I find seasonally, I gain weight. When I'm at cottages and I'm traveling in the summer and I'm not exercising as much like I'll gain a little bit of like, holiday weight, Christmas, Christmas weight, whatever you want to call it, and then the same thing with sometimes in the summer. And so that just means to me that if I'm doing that twice a year and I don't then adjust afterwards, you just continually carry that year over year, and so I am just aware of the role that that plays. So like, today, I've logged my Noom already, and I've put in, like, I've logged my breakfast and my mid morning snack. I've already achieved my steps goal. I went to a Pilates class, and I put all this stuff in, and it's like, all there. It'll like, tell me everything here that I need to know, it has my weight loss zone at the top for calories, how many calories I've already consumed. And when I stick to this like I do, see results. So that

Sarah Burke  42:49  
would hook into your apple, like steps counter, right? Like your Apple Health? Oh, no, it does. Actually,

Caitlin Green  42:54  
you're right. It does. Sarah,

Sarah Burke  42:56  
how would it count the steps into the app? Right? 1,000% so it does it with your

Caitlin Green  43:00  
phone. Your phone's not always super accurate. So I will say that, yeah, like, if you have, like, an one of these guys, yeah, if you have an aura, or if you have a whoop, I don't know that it communicates directly with those two, but I don't have them, so I don't know. But so all, it just gives you a general estimate, like, it

Sarah Burke  43:15  
doesn't connect to your My Fitness Pal for like, where you put your meals, or you put your meals directly into new put your

Caitlin Green  43:21  
meals directly into the new app, and at the bottom you'll have, like, you input different data. And so today I just said that I did a low intensity, 60 minute Pilates class. And Pilates, ever low intensity, kind of like, they base it off of it's it's really common sense. They tell you here's how they gage if it's hard or not, low intensity is easy, breathing and a little sweat like a casual walk, which is kind of how I found it. Then medium intensity would be quicker, breaths, moderate sweat and talking takes effort. I haven't had that. That was not my intensity of Pilates today. And then high intensity, heavy breathing, lots of sweat, talking, nearly impossible. And so it put an hour long, light Pilates class at 250 calories burned, which is pretty good. So it's guessing, what the calories it's guessing. It's totally guessing, and it's and so, you know, you'll the results are really in like, what happens on the scale after about a week or two? And it's a slow intro, Jan. Like, if you wanted to join this,

Jann Arden  44:18  
it's about 30 bucks a month, isn't it?

Caitlin Green  44:20  
I think so. But I have a promo, so it's not as much right now.

Jann Arden  44:24  
Do you have a promo that if you get a friend to join, you get it? Yeah,

Caitlin Green  44:27  
I think I do, actually. And should we try all together? We could I love it, and then I'll

Jann Arden  44:33  
try it. I'll try Noom. I'll I'll try it. I'll sign up when we're when we're done, but look, get back to me when we're finished the podcast today, and let me know if there's some kind of a if you get they must have, if you get people to join, we will help you give them a discount or whatever,

Sarah Burke  44:51  
like a referral deal.

Caitlin Green  44:52  
They should, yeah, the things that should sponsor me personally like stuff that I Well, my

Jann Arden  44:56  
Cove is going to be like a free ride. So that's why I do

Caitlin Green  44:59  
my. A skinny pop, or, like, regular just like a natural pop, popcorn and olives. When I get a salt craving, or, like, you can have dill pickles or whatever soup, like whatever works for you, that's my midnight snack. I

Sarah Burke  45:09  
love olives, yeah, and

Caitlin Green  45:11  
they're salty, and I love us. Get

Jann Arden  45:13  
bad dreams. What dreams with olives? Really bad dreams. I get terrible dreams. Weird. It's like end of the world. I'm being chased and and I'm growing a beard. Dreams like those kind

Sarah Burke  45:24  
of I've never heard of anyone having bad dreams from all

Caitlin Green  45:27  
this. Never knew anyway.

Jann Arden  45:28  
Listen, we need to wrap this up. We're gonna do our Patreon bonus material. So don't when you finish here, Patreon folks, you will be able to click on and and see us talking about break dancing in the Olympics, the Ray

Caitlin Green  45:43  
Gun saga. Jen

Sarah Burke  45:44  
is stopping you. Hold your horse. They're

Jann Arden  45:46  
not gonna get that here. So thank you for listening. Uh, thank you Cove. Thank you intact. Thank you. You know all our sponsors that are wonder bra. I'm wearing my Wonder bra right the front now, guys, I'm wearing my Wonder bra right now. One of my Wonder bras that I ordered, and it was not, it did not say sports bra. It's the best fucking sports bra. It's like a minimizer. It's very comfy, and there's no underwire, so I'm using it as a sports bra. So thank you. Wonder bra. They

Caitlin Green  46:12  
are a girl. It's a great summer bra. I will say that because it's light and there's no underwire. I don't need a minimizer. I need a maximizer. So no.

Jann Arden  46:19  
Great travel. Bra, yeah, great travel. Bra, Listen, before we go away, we're gonna play you some voice notes, because that is part of our weekly show. So without any further ado, Sarah's got them queued up, and we thank you. Keep leaving those voice notes. Jan Arden pod is our handle across all the social platforms so you can find us Patreon, sign up five bucks. And

Sarah Burke  46:44  
I just want to mention her name, because she sent me a message. And was like, Oh, I finally figured out how to send a wholesale. And I just want to, very quickly, Carol. Carol Hempstead salute, figured it out. I don't know which one of these is her, but let's listen to some girls. Here we

Speaker 1  47:01  
go. Hi. Jen Caitlin, Sarah, just wanted to send you a quick note to say, I'm Julie from London, Ontario. Been listening to your podcast since the beginning, and I really do enjoy listening to you talk, the banter, the laughter, just an overall, you know, fun conversation to listen along to. And I really find that it really does make my week like a drop. So also wanted to just mention how excited I am that you have Cove soda on board. I love Cove soda, one of the best probiotic drinks I've tried really do just want to say thanks to you guys for what you're doing, and I look forward to your podcast for next week. Take care. Love you guys. Bye.

Caitlin Green  47:55  
I love that.

Jann Arden  47:58  
Thank you. Well, we love you too. That's so nice. That wasn't even planned the cove soda.

Sarah Burke  48:03  
Here's another one for six.

Speaker 2  48:09  
Oh, Hello, ladies. I'm just listening back to some of the older shows, and I came across the one talking about the fires in Hawaii. And Jan, you had said that you purchased a fire ladder to save yourself and the little puppers. I was just wondering how that worked out for you, because you said you were going to make a few test runs and put a weighted backpack on and go down. So I'm just wondering, I'm just curious how that you made out with that, as that seems like a very good purchase, and perhaps, depending on your review, yes, I might get one. Please enlighten me.

Jann Arden  48:57  
Okay, well, you have to get one. Okay, I got the ladder, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna put a video up on Patreon. I will show you where it is. So it's in a bag. It's, I leave it on my deck. I'm like, first I had it in my house, and I'm like, Why the fuck are you having it in the house at the back door? What if that's on fire? So it's outside in the in its bag on the deck. It's super easy to unzip. So my friend was here with me, and we took it out of the bag. It's plenty long enough. There's maybe three feet missing

Sarah Burke  49:25  
at the bottom. You can handle that jump.

Jann Arden  49:28  
I can handle that. So we took it, I put it on my railing, and I gently put it down. I listen in a fire. I'm not going to gently put it down because I have glass, a glass railing, so I didn't want to bust the glass and hurt myself, and I don't want to break the glass when I'm climbing down there, so I haven't put a weighted backpack on. That's a very good question. I did get on a chair and I went on the other side of the deck. And went down like three rungs. I can do it, no problem. I can do it with poppy. I can, I could do it with him stuffed. I'm thinking adrenaline, but I definitely, I do need a chair to stand on a chair, put my leg over the balcony and start crawling down this ladder that is hooked two big metal hooks on the railing. And then, like I said, I've got a three foot, maybe even two and a half foot that it doesn't quite hit the ground. But fuck, that's better than going 18 feet.

Caitlin Green  50:28  
Your deck sounds very high.

Jann Arden  50:30  
I'm high so I'm on an escarpment. So the front of my house looks like a ranch style. Sarah's been there, but where my bedroom is, it's three full stories at the back of my house. So the top of the house would be, I would say, 60 feet. Oh, geez, okay, yeah, and then it goes down from there. So yeah, it's, I'm gonna say, I'm definitely on the third floor. But anyway, thank you for asking that. And I am prepped. I'm ready. I've done it, and I, I'm going to show you a picture of the bag out there, but you definitely need I feel a lot better than I've got that fucking ladder. It's ridiculous, and I might break my leg, but you know what, Poppy and I will live here

Sarah Burke  51:12  
is our last one for the week. Good

Speaker 3  51:14  
morning, Sarah and Jen. This is Angelique from the Annapolis Valley. Hey. What about me? I was just listening to your podcast on liking the feeling of new friendships must have been less. I know that love bombing is a thing. Have you ever been friend bombed? What

Jann Arden  51:29  
is? What is love bombing? Let's

Sarah Burke  51:31  
look this up, a form of psychological and emotional abuse disguised as excessive flattery over the top, gift giving and needy or jealous behavior. So she's talking about that?

Caitlin Green  51:42  
Oh, yeah, no, I've heard of love bombing, but friend bombing, is it the same thing a friend, yeah, but

Sarah Burke  51:46  
like, trying to go after your friendship rather than, like, court you,

Jann Arden  51:50  
I have been friend bombed. Oh, but it was love bombed in disguise. Oh, don't, don't.

Caitlin Green  51:59  
Okay, I don't think I've been friend bombed.

Sarah Burke  52:01  
I think that some people come on too strong for the point that you're at in your friendship. And I have experienced that where it's like I would, I would call it an acquaintance, but they are clearly thinking it's something else.

Caitlin Green  52:15  
Okay, that's fair.

Jann Arden  52:16  
Sarah, you friend bomb me so bad. I mean,

Sarah Burke  52:20  
but, but I think, I think one of our early experiences together involved a friend. Bomb, no, I just leave it at that. Okay, let's

Jann Arden  52:29  
leave it at that. Patreon. We'll have to talk about what that is after we get maybe that's

Caitlin Green  52:35  
a Patreon. That's what we call a tease in radio. That's a tease.

Jann Arden  52:39  
Okay, I'm gonna say goodbye. Caitlin green, Sarah Burke, Patreon, $5 you can sign up now and you can be first in line to come and see us live. October, the first in Toronto. Watch for it. Event bright. Watch for it. It's not announced yet. It's not on the books yet. It's gonna come. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time. Oh,