Halloween Spooktacular with Clairvoyant Kim Dennis

Jann Arden  0:00  
Music, welcome one and all to the Jann Arden podcast and show. I'm here with Caitlin green, Sarah Burke. They are in their respective Toronto homes for this hallowed Eve scary, frightening podcast. Now this isn't going to be frightening. We have the greatest guest ever. We have had so much feedback from this particular woman, so many people have contacted this particular woman after we have spoken to her to get special readings without any further ado. This is a friend of mine. She's a fellow Calgarian. She's got two beautiful daughter. She's got an amazing house wedged between these giant like high rises in downtown Calgary. I don't know how you've done it. There's this beautiful cottage you you look like the Gingerbread Cottage. Kim Dennis. I just wanted to say that because whenever I've gone to your house for readings, I whenever I drive up, it's so ideal. Like you've got the white picket fence, you've got this house, this beautiful house with stone and wood and and it's right like smack downtown in the middle of apartment buildings. How have you managed that?

Kim Dennis  1:11  
You know, yeah, that my house was built originally in 1888

Jann Arden  1:14  
this doesn't surprise me.

Kim Dennis  1:16  
Funny. You say that the day I went to look to buy a house, I had a real estate agent, and he had a few houses lined up, and I was having my morning tea, and I opened the paper just to see what was there. And it just that was the first thing I saw was this house. And I right away, I said, I said to him, when I saw him, I said, I want to go see this house. So we saw two others, and I knew as soon as I walked in the door that this was the house for me. But yeah, it was built in 1888 that's where all the old heritage homes are in downtown in the Beltline of Calgary. But yeah, I love it here. Has a wonderful energy, wonderful vibe.

Sarah Burke  1:44  
You know, we have to ask, Was there anything calling you to this house? Anyone?

Kim Dennis  1:50  
Well, probably what, maybe what you might want to know is that I love genealogy as well, too, and I did a land title search on the house just to find out exactly how old it was and it was 1888 but I've been here almost 20 years, and shortly after I moved in here, I was coming down the stairs about three o'clock in the morning, and this little girl in spirit ran past me on the stairs, and it was so real that I felt the lace or crinoline of her dress up against my leg. And at that time, my young girl, Brenna, was still living at home. She was 13. I thought, you know, where the heck is she going? And she just dissipated at the top of the stairs. And she looked she had like a Little House on the Prairie, dress on, and she had big Nelly Olsen curls, but it was brown hair, I know, and so. And she would never look at me, but she would run past me, and she would giggle. So, long story short, I've seen her probably eight or nine times. And the last two times I saw her, I kind of called out to and I said, What's your name, Honey, what's your name? And she either said, Flori or flora. So in 1911 George and Catherine Bryant lived in my home, and they had five children. One was Florence, so I kind of suspect it's her. Last times I saw her, it was in my basement. I was doing laundry and she had a man with her, I was wasn't scary or anything. Kind of caught me off guard, but I kind of it was probably her dad.

Jann Arden  3:07  
Kim, if you were to explain yourself to people, how would you describe what it is that you do? I think it's really important to kind of establish that, yeah, right out of the gate, yeah, I

Kim Dennis  3:17  
guess I'm a medium. Medium is the person sort of between this world. In that world, I tap into a higher vibration. I'm probably technically more clairaudient, sort of like, like a golden retriever or something. I can tap into a higher vibration. I think they lower theirs somewhat the spirits on the other side. And I can tap into a higher vibration. And I can hear them talk. I can see them, and I can feel them as well too. But I mostly hear them when I'm doing a reading. It's just like a conversation going back and forth. I will sometimes feel like if somebody was hearing impaired and I'm using my hands to kind of commute and give messages, I'm kind of the person in the middle. I guess that's where the meeting comes. Plus, I've done so much studying on spirituality and stuff. I'm not expert, expert. But, you know, people come to me for two primary reasons. They want to contact a loved one, and their life isn't going in the direction that they want it to go in. So I try and help them with spiritual guidance. I can't fix anybody's life but and I can't heal anybody, but I hopefully can make triggers that'll help them self heal. You know, whether it's something physical or emotional, which I think they're all connected, to be honest with you, and sort of tell them how to with their thoughts. There's lots of ways to with their thoughts, how to create a better life.

Jann Arden  4:27  
You helped me a lot with my dad's mom,

Kim Dennis  4:31  
who's, who's Evan or Owen or something. I've had that name. It's, it's

Jann Arden  4:35  
my it's my grandfather. It's, it's, it's my grandmother's husband. Is this?

Kim Dennis  4:40  
Yeah, I kind of had that when I was setting up, between setting up and whatever it just is Evan or Owen. I can't Owen, okay, that's your grandfather, yeah, I kind of feel like he's been my friend. He's kind of been hanging around, kind of a charming guy.

Jann Arden  4:55  
I never met him. Obviously, he, I think he passed away in 61 I was born in 62 but you said about my. Grandmother, whom I always kind of was scared of. She was very religious, but I loved her music. She played piano, and she was a very church like, Oh, but I remember sitting beside her big, round body. She was about 411 250 pounds, and, you know, she was quite frightening, but she had, like, 55 grandchildren, so it was a lot to deal with. But anyway, I remember her telling me that I was one of her favorites, and she was kind of scary. And you said to me, Karina is here, Kona. It's a weird name. Jan. You said, it's a weird name, and I kind of let you just go out there. And I said to you, Krillin, and you said, yes, it's krillah. That's That was her name, wow. And you said that? She said, Please tell Jen, I did the best I could with what I knew at the time, and it really changed the trajectory of how I thought about my dad's mom, because her husband, Owen, died very young. He was 5758 my which made my dad leave home at 14 years old. It changed everybody's lives. What happened to him? Yeah, and they were broke, and she was a school teacher, and I always wanted to be a school teacher. But anyway, thank you for that. Kim. So when you talk about changing people's lives through this dialog, it's and that's not what people think. To me, that's a relatively simple sentiment. It was a sentence I did the best I could. And it's not like, ooh and the table fucking lifts off the ground and and the lights go out. That's not, that's not my experience with you as a medium. It is so practical and helpful,

Kim Dennis  6:38  
I try to take the paranormal out of it. It's fun. It's fun. The Paranormal part a little bit in Halloween, but that's what I really try to do, is I try to bring it down to earth, you know, so that it isn't as spooky as as, not as as paranormal ish, that you can build a different relationship with your loved one once they cross over. You know that they're not as gone as we think, that they are, that they do walk, that they do walk with us. And I kind of narrow that gap a little bit so that you can build a different relationship, and you don't feel that there is gone, as we may feel when they first cross over. So and I look for I ask them, and they do give me little things that there's no way I would know. And you know a lot of that with grief and stuff. I mean, grief changes over time, but it can trigger healing as well, too. Is what it is. It's like, oh my gosh, they really are there with me. And I always, I try to make it tangible that part of us that always feels young, that always feels young no matter how old you are, that's your soul, that's the real you, that's and that's tangible for people in the in the physical world. You know, you know, you'd never hear anybody in their 20s say, Oh, I still feel like that same young person. Remember my grandson, when he was 90, said he still felt like the same young soldier on the inside, right? And I said, You are so that that part of you is always young. Always feels like you're in your 20s, the prime of your life. And people in the physical world can identify with that, yeah, they can. They can identify with that. Was like, Is that what that is? Yeah, and when you say you're talking to yourself, Who you talking to? You're talking to your soul, you're talking to yourself, to your soul, to your spirit. And I think a lot of people get a little bit confused. And I mean, with with spirit guides, you know your spirit and soul is the same thing, just a different word, like a million different words for karma, right? So your spirit, your your spirit guide is your soul. It guides you, and it guides you through your feelings. And I try to tell people, stop thinking so much, right? Stop thinking to my all the answers about you or inside of you, all the guidance, right? And if you can't hear it, then you're just thinking way too much. So I try to get people more in touch with that. I love that they come to me for help, but he can't always be there. I used to do this with my kids, like, oh, you know, I don't really. I remember my one daughter coming downstairs and saying, I said, What's your problem? Says, Well, I don't really feel ready for that test tomorrow, because you're not. And I'm like, Well, that's what you feel. I said, you got a choice. You did go and study more, call it a night and do the best you can. But you are being told that you're not ready for that test tomorrow. So whether it's a big thing or a small thing, I try to tell people that all the answers about you are inside of you might not always be what you want to hear, but a spirit guide is not a separate entity. It's not something that walks with you. People think that about spirit guides, that it's some separate entity and and that we all have guardian angels. I think guardian angels are like calling 911, that's why you always hear that they show up when you're having trauma or something's going wrong in your life.

Jann Arden  9:28  
Girls, I really want to hear your questions for Kim, well, something

Caitlin Green  9:32  
that I always I've asked some mediums who I've had the like, good fortune of speaking with, kind of over the years, whether that was in radio or just in my own personal life, but is, you know, a lot of people ascribe the meaning of signs in their life, so sequential numbers or a certain song comes on right when you're thinking about someone, just those little moments. And like you were saying, I think it can be hard for some people to access this type of information about themselves in an openness, but those. Little tangible moments, I think, create ways that people become more curious about it. So when you see 1111, or 444, and do you think that there is meaning behind those things, that there are any messages and and what people can like kind of take from those little, like Inkling moments,

Kim Dennis  10:15  
great question, you know. So a couple things. There's our loved ones reaching out and connecting with us, and there's law of attraction as well too. So if you say to yourself, gee, every time I look at the clock, it's 1111, or 222, or 333, done. The universe. And every time those numbers come up around you, you're going to be drawn to look at them, whether you're in the car, whether you're whatever, because that's what you said. Start saying million dollars now if you'll attract that in well, you will. It does the universe no more effort to manifest a cup of coffee a million dollars. So. So it could be that as well, too. That said, if it does have a particular meaning to know this particular time is when a loved one crossed over, or something like that, sure, but more times than not, with the numbers thing, it's, you see it a couple times, you're like, Gee, every time I look at the clock, you know, it's, it's 333, but it doesn't really take you to anybody who's crossed over. That's law of attraction. That's so much power you have to create stuff in your life. That said, there is lots of different ways, like songs and smells and stuff. And it's not a thinking thing. It'll just take you there. It'll take you there. You know, my dad crossed over over 20 years ago, and he was a mechanic, and lots of times I'll think of him start my car, and there's Johnny Cash like all in the same moment, right? So without a doubt, that's my dad letting me know that he's there with me, there with me in the car. Dimes, yeah, it used to be pennies from heaven, okay, used to be pennies from we don't make him anymore, so, dimes, yeah, but if, but the the connection is, is that you won't have to think about it all of a sudden, you'll be your grandma will be in your mind, or your mind, or your dad, or your brother who passed away, or whatever. You won't have to do the work, the thinking and and, or often, you'll, you'll, they'll run into your thoughts. And then something will happen, right? All of a sudden, then, then you'll find a dime, or then a certain song comes on the radio. Or then my grandmother, who was British, I'll smell lavender sometimes, right? And I'll think about her all at the same time. So if it just takes you there, it's not a thinking thing. And when it takes you there, stay there, because you can talk yourself in and out of anything, because it's not really tangible most of the time, right? But yeah, so with the numbers thing, I think that's more times, not law I used to read for this old gal. She was adorable. She thought every time she went for a walk and looked at a straight street light. It would go out. I'm like, Really, you got better powers than I do. She was so cute, but I do believe that, because she believed that whenever one was gonna go out, she would be drawn to look at it and she would see it. That's how much power we have. You know, always talk to yourself like you already have something. And when you say, Gee, every time I look at the clock, it's 333, you're making a statement like, do that with everything.

Jann Arden  12:45  
Do that with everything. I like that the intention of you bring into your life what you cast, the net that you cast, and what you want to attract into your life. And we see that all the time. We're

Kim Dennis  12:57  
a reflection of what we believe is possible in our lives, and if you feel limited, you're just doing that with your thoughts.

Jann Arden  13:04  
But we know people in our lives, don't we? Kim that do that all the time. They're kind of harbingers of doom. It's like womp, womp, womp. And you know, things don't turn out for them, and you kind of want to grab their shoulders and go, you, you reap what you sow like and then there's so many catch phrases that are exactly saying that same thing. If

Kim Dennis  13:27  
you don't like what's going on in your life, you better look at what you're putting out and what you're expecting. And if you're focusing on what you don't want in life or in a relationship or whatever you're gonna attract, that in the universe doesn't understand if you want something or not. So if saying, I you know, if you want a relationship, I don't want this. I don't want this in a person. You just made a list of all the things you want you're gonna get. So whatever you put your focus on, and your attention on is what you're going to draw into your life. And the universe does not understand a joke either. So if you start telling yourself, you know at this rate, I'll be working when I'm 80. Hmm, they didn't know that was a joke, unless you want to be stop saying that you'll be working when you're 80 years old. So that's a lot of times what I hope I want shows up, because that's all, that's all we talk about, you know, it's too like with, with, with healing, you know, or with, when somebody's ill, no matter what the illness is, never be in denial about your health. Never that doesn't get you anywhere. But you always do it the Irish way. You always say, I'm healing, I'm healing, I'm healing, right? All right. Thank you for my healing. I am in perfect health. You focus on where you want to go. Denial gets you nowhere, nowhere. But you all like, if you had no money, you wouldn't keep saying, I'm broke. I'm broke, wanting to to bring money into into life. So you always you know where you are, but you always focus on the end result, and never mind. It's never your job to figure out how something comes to that's how you manipulate the universe. Yeah, it's there. It makes who cares? It's like, like, that's their job. You just put it out there. You see where you are, and you put all, all the feeling you can into the end result, and the universe will take care of the in between part. Sarah

Jann Arden  14:57  
question, well, first is there? There, is

Sarah Burke  15:00  
there anyone with us right now?

Kim Dennis  15:01  
I was thinking of your grandma. I was thinking of a grandma. Yeah, I just kind of felt like a grandma. I don't know. She was like, I don't know. I feel like she was like, quick witted or something like that. I don't know. I just really like her. She was like, snappy or something. So I was kind of thinking of and I feel like there's a young man. I've been kind of feeling around as well too. Is this okay?

Sarah Burke  15:18  
So I had a reading with Kim after the last time we had her on and you told me this specific person was hanging around my desk area. Is

Kim Dennis  15:27  
it the same person? Yes, yes. Actually move stuff. I don't get that. I don't see that very often, but I see stuff being shifted. I don't know if you have a very well organized desk,

Jann Arden  15:35  
Sarah, I see something behind you, but I just see

Kim Dennis  15:39  
like, kind of messing it up a little bit. So

Sarah Burke  15:41  
Kim had said to me, this is someone that's not quite like grandparents age, but like maybe older. So my mom's brother passed many, many years ago now, and he was super techy. I had no idea when I first started working with Jen, when you were on maternity leave, Caitlin, I had a setup that kept disconnecting. Remember how annoying it was? It drove me crazy. Yes, it was like, for like, the first month I was working with Jen, I was like, Jen. I was like, sorry, my thing disconnected. So Kim said to me on the phone, in the reading, he says, your new setup is going to work much better stop it. And I had just, I had just bought what I'm using now. Ah, that's it. Yeah,

Kim Dennis  16:14  
I get him. Yeah. So it's my uncle. I think he passed rather quickly. Wow. This is kind of odd, but I see a like, a trash can up, turned upside down. And what that is somebody just like knocking trash can over, or something like that.

Unknown Speaker  16:26  
Is it the dog?

Kim Dennis  16:29  
Oh, maybe, I don't know. I just saw something that looked like a trash can knocked over.

Sarah Burke  16:33  
We'll have to ponder that. But one, one to just take away from, you know, reading with Kim. And if there's a clairvoyant in your life, or if you book of reading with Kim. I was someone who was really scared of this stuff before. I was totally creeped out, especially because I live alone and Kim and Jan, you might remember, I had this light that kept going on, and, you know, eventually figured out, I think it's my my grandfather on my dad's side, my dad's dad. And, you know, it was almost like the joke of like, how persistent he was. Like, Oh yeah, I'm gonna show you it's actually me. Like, I could feel the like comedy of it, and him, yeah, yeah, you can feel their personality. And he made a light turn on in my kitchen after that one because I was like, no, no, it can't be, because Kim just said, when you ask for someone to show like they they will when, even when you don't think it's them. And the fact that he, I was standing this is a light that you have to touch to turn on. It has three settings. It goes, you know, dim, then middle, then bright. I'm in the kitchen, nowhere near touching the light, and this light goes on. It's freaky when you live alone, right? So this light has been on and off and on and off all year, the whole time since I've met you, Kim, and my mom never really believed this stuff. My dad has been like, kind of curious. It happened while I was on FaceTime with my mom last week, and she was like, Oh,

Kim Dennis  17:47  
thanks for that, making her a believer.

Sarah Burke  17:51  
Oh, we're getting her to come around. But yeah, I wanted to just ask about like, with Halloween and people who might be scared. How do you reframe it as like, no, anything that is around is like part of your path, almost. It

Kim Dennis  18:03  
is. It's just, well, I just, I just sort of say, Halloween is a fun time. It is. It's just a fun time for ghosts and witches and all this kind of stuff. It is. But just kind of separating that, that there is nothing scary. You know, I was, I was talking to somebody earlier today. I've been doing readings for over 25 years. Not once has anybody ever come to me for reading and said that they had a spirit connect with them and hurt them in any way whatsoever, maybe catch them off guard, scared them a little bit, but never, ever did anything to hurt them, anything so so that's why I really do try to take the paranormal out of it, but it's kind of fun that I live in my there's a family with seven kids across the street, and when they come trick or treating, I'm like, You want to hear a ghost story? Come on in. And they're like, no, she needs it, don't? Yeah. I'm like, I'll tell you a ghost story, but there's really nothing paranormal about

Sarah Burke  18:51  
it. Have you been scared in the past? Me?

Kim Dennis  18:55  
No, I've been caught off guard, like, I've been startled, like, turn around and saw somebody or whatever, but, but never been, but never been scared. No, always, kind of always felt, yeah, I've gone into a trance a couple times where I've connected with people in a different level as well, too. But nothing ever really scary. It's scary, but I was just feel fortunate and say thank you. Was like, I don't know why I can do this, but I don't know why a lot of things, I don't know how long traction works either. I just know that, right? So, yeah, so I'm just grateful. But no, it's never, it's never, it's never been harmful or anything like that.

Jann Arden  19:33  
How do you feel about people who ignore their intuition? Because I find that to be an interesting part of a lot of people's lives is that even when they I'll just give you an example of you're standing in front of an elevator. There's three men in the elevator. You ignore fear, you ignore the fact that I don't want to get into this elevator. And you override the intuition, or you override the gift of fear, which to me is intuition as well. You. Why do and I find that women do that a lot. There's always that whole thing about women's intuition. We don't hear the stereotypical sayings about men's intuition. It doesn't come into that. Maybe it's part of the witchy Coven nature of how women have been healers and thinkers and and leaders and spiritual people. But, yeah, why do we ignore intuition? Well,

Kim Dennis  20:22  
intuition is your space like intuition, spirit guide, gut knowing that's all. It's all the same thing, just in different words. So sometimes it's not what you want to hear, and people don't trust it as well, too. And if they if you can't hear it, you're thinking too much, right? So, so thinking is way louder than feeling. What

Jann Arden  20:39  
do you mean by thinking too much? Like, Oh, what am What am I going to do with the office? Why do I have these bills? Like thinking too much? What does that mean? Yeah, so

Kim Dennis  20:46  
if you do that, you're not going to get anywhere. It's like, worrying is like praying for stuff you don't want, right? So you're like, I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. Well, yeah, you actually do if you calm down, let it go, distract yourself, or whatever, then the that's why they said it's like, you know, I don't know what to do. Yeah, you do. You just can't hear it, because all the mind chatter and the noise of the world will drown out that inner voice, or your gut or your instinct, or your knowing, if you let it, and as soon as somebody's distracted or lets it go for a minute, like, Oh, there's the answer. I'm like, it was always there. You just couldn't get to it. See, most of the time, what we think and feel is the same thing. It looks good, feels good. Looks bad, feels bad. But if you're ever thinking one thing, but start getting a different feeling, the universe has your back, right? Always go with the feeling. No matter if it's big or small, even if you're buying a used car, maybe it all checks out, but not doesn't matter what it is, it just isn't sitting right with you. The universe has the bigger picture. They're protecting you. But you have a choice whether to listen or not, right? And either you listen, you listen and you go, I don't know, just something doesn't feel right. I'm going to leave it right. Or you go, like, I'm just going to Popo it and not listen, and yet it and then the tires fall off on the way home. It's like I knew something. We've all had moments where we knew we should or shouldn't have done something right. All you do with those moments is learn from them and listen next time and listen next time. So if you kind of get that, all the answers are inside of you. That's why I take when I feel a little bit overwhelmed as my sign to go, sit down on the couch or rely or relax, or whatever, have a cup of tea. And then I'll and I do that in the morning, and I'll just sort my day. It'll sort my day out. People don't listen to it. I don't know. I don't, I don't think they realize that that's really the voice of God, source your soul talking to you. Yeah, that that's where all the answers you never have to guess your way through life. Some people it's not what they want to hear, but that's that's the way it is. If you

Caitlin Green  22:27  
wanted to like contact or be contacted by someone who had crossed over, if you like does do you need to say out loud, like, Hey, Grandma, I'd love to hear from you. Or it's like thinking about it in a positive way enough, because some people want it, but I don't know that they know how to, like invite it into their lives.

Kim Dennis  22:43  
You know, if they come for a reading, it says they just usually show up. A lot of people come with the intention. It's like, I hope my mom comes, or my grand comes, or something like, that's just kind of a natural thing that they'll start to say and talk about. But you don't have to, you don't have to do that. And I also, I try to tell people, I try to remember it's like anybody can show up, usually who you want, if your mom, your dad, or whatever, usually, who you want to show up will, but I always say open up to the possibility of anybody who's been in your life, a great teacher, a great neighbor, you know, good friend or whatever, anybody,

Caitlin Green  23:13  
anybody can show up. Will you censor bad news from people?

Kim Dennis  23:17  
I tell them everything I get. Okay, yeah, that's what they're coming to see me for. You know, I charge for most readings so that I tell them whatever I get. That said, I don't get a lot of bad news. I don't want to be the bearer of bad news. I want people to come to me but, but I do tell them. I do tell them whatever it is, whatever it is I'm getting, because I feel like, if they're bringing me, the message from the other side, this person needs to hear it, so it's not up to me to filter it or whatever. That's not That's not my that's not my job. I try to find a way to ease it a little bit, yeah, or whatever. But yeah, if

Caitlin Green  23:49  
I'm very into astrology, and I'm just because it's sort of like, I find it to be sort of like, adjacent to all this type of spiritual stuff. Do you feel like you you're into astrology? Do you feel like chart readings are accurate and that, you know, the signs do have some identifying qualities with people? I

Kim Dennis  24:05  
don't know much about it, but I believe there's something to it, for sure, yeah, oh, for sure. I know. I'm a Capricorn, and I know a little bit about the traits. My younger daughter is actually quite interested in astrology, yeah, whatever. But I do believe there's something to it all kinds of stuff. Like, I love feng shui. That's my other don't know that much about it, but I love feng shui. I don't have screen doors. I don't have screens on my windows. I love the way the air flows and stuff like that. I mean, my my house, isn't completely feng shui, but I'm interested in that kind of stuff. So, yeah, I think there's something to it. Somebody did my chart once I thought it was quite interesting numerology. I have a friend that does that a little bit as well, too. And I come out as a number seven, which is a spiritual number. So I'm like, Okay, I buy into this cool okay, so yeah, I think there's lots of advocacy things. I didn't seek out to do this. I was born this way, right? So I never sought out to crystals and astrology and all this other kind of stuff. I didn't but, like I said, I do five. And feux way kind of interesting, because I just like the way energy and air flows and stuff like that, so, but I think there's something to

Caitlin Green  25:05  
it's what sold one of my childhood homes was that the family who was purchasing it was interested in numerology. They were Chinese family, and they were very into like the numbers. And so the number of our house was so fortunate for them that they were really into it. And they opened the door, and it was apparently a rarity not to have, like, the stairs go right up and then the front door to then be like a shot structure to the back door, yeah. And so we had all these you in order to get to the back and then go upstairs. It was this, like, circuitous route. And they loved it. They were just like, we're buying it. We don't care. We can make the rest work. But, like, this house has good Feng Shui,

Kim Dennis  25:40  
yeah, you know what? Whatever it was told them instinctively that whatever this was their home. Yeah, this was the place for them, whether it was that or whatever, but whatever it was that reassured them that that was the home for them. All I had to do was look at my staircase.

Caitlin Green  25:54  
It's popular now for people to say like vibes, they'll just say someone has a good vibe, or a place has a good vibe, or everyone says that now it's like, all about the vibe always. But I do think that that's what they're really trying to put into words. Is like something just either has a good energy about it, or a person, or just a feeling that they're getting, and it's that, like gut instinct from like, yeah.

Kim Dennis  26:12  
I mean, everything is an energy, right? Everything, everything moves, or whatever. I think it's more the vibe is of the people who probably are in it, I think, more than anything. I'm not sure if, but you know what you can walk into, or you can walk into work, you can walk into somewhere and nobody's done or said anything. You go, what's wrong? Yes, what's up? You just know that the vibe, the feeling, or whatever, is different. Or it's like, Why is everybody so happy, who won the lottery, whose birthday is, and nobody has to do or say anything? You just don't, I know if you have kids, right? They just walk right past you, and then, you know, you're like, what's wrong? You know, you know what we were saying before Jan about, you know, sort of women and their intuition stuff. And go back to that, women do have more of a sixth sense, right? You know, they say mother's intuition, or whatever. We need that because to protect our young, obviously, because we're not as strong as male. So we need a head up. Heads up. So what the universe God would ever put into the mother bear and Tiger, whatever we have in us as well, too. And you don't have to have a child for that to happen. And the other kind of witchy part, or I don't know if that's what you want to call it, is, I talked about this a lot at the Women's show. Not only are women like carry a child and all that, the soul comes in through us, right, the egg and the sperm, for sure. You know, we do that, but the soul comes in through us is, we're the portal women window from that world to this world. Yeah. So not only do we conceive a child physically or whatever, the soul has to come in as well too, right? Yeah.

Jann Arden  27:30  
So I love that. Oh, it's pretty magical. What goes on out there? Well, that's why

Kim Dennis  27:34  
women have the sixth sense and stuff as well, too. We can sense danger before it happens. And like I said, we need that so we can protect ourselves.

Jann Arden  27:41  
The gift of fear, that's what I was saying, is like, there's an alleyway that you're gonna walk down. It's kind of dark. You want to be brave. You want to talk yourself out of shit, like, oh God, everything's fine. I'm just I'm just being silly. I never override those things anymore. But it's also the gift of age. I used to when I was 20 or 30, I could be quite Cavalier. And so you also have the gift of time, knowledge, you know, accumulated experiences. But I love the idea that I do listen to intuition more. If something feels

Kim Dennis  28:13  
off, or you feel scared or you never hear it, you never see a child. You know, I always say, if a child doesn't feel comfortable around an adult or something, listen to them. Because kids going it just go right by instinct. You know that they do. If you feel like somebody's off or somebody's creepy or or whatever,

Jann Arden  28:29  
I don't want to be around uncle. Tim, yeah, okay, that's it. Yeah, that's it.

Kim Dennis  28:33  
You know, if you get a good feeling, bad feeling, or whatever, no, no matter what somebody's telling you want to hear a story. I went to a barbecue. This was years ago, and is when I was doing a lot of radio on this I this gentleman came up to me and shook my hand, and he says, Oh, I listen to on the radio all the time. I'm like, oh. As soon as he touched my hand, I almost threw up in my mouth. I did. I was like, oh. And I was like, what was that? And I went to my friend who was hosting the barbecue after I was like, Who is that guy? She goes, Oh, he's really nice guy works with my husband. I'm like, There's something not good about him, icky, right? She was like, Oh no, he's a really nice guy. I'm like, okay, whatever. Yeah, well, I got a phone call three weeks later, guess who was in jail for domestic violence? And she said, You were right. That's what it wasn't. As soon as he touched my hand, I did. I threw up on my mouth, and I have never that was a unique experience, but yeah, and it was just like, in three weeks later, he was in jail for domestic violence, and she said, that's what you were picking up on. And I knew. And you don't have to always know everything I did find out later. You just trust the feeling right but I knew. I knew right away, even despite of what he was presenting, he seemed like a decent guy or whatever, there was something I could do. There's something wasn't right

Jann Arden  29:35  
about him. Oh, well, we override that stuff sometimes too.

Kim Dennis  29:38  
I know fear is a gift. It's like the universe telling you that something isn't right here, that it isn't that it isn't right here. So, yeah, I don't know people, I think, hopefully, are getting more in touch with their feelings. That's what it is. It's your feelings. You can talk yourself in and out of anything, right? Yeah, but your feelings are everything. Your feelings tell you everything. That's it. I used to say to my girls, I'm like, I don't know what to do. I'm like, Yes, you do. You, yeah, what does it feel like? Does it feel right, or does it feel whatever? And like, you know, make them go there or whatever, yeah, and like I said, it's not always the answer you want, but your feelings are always right.

Jann Arden  30:09  
This is a question that I know that we're going to get, and I want to be preemptive about it. We have talked about this before, and I also have the grace of knowing you for many, many years now, Kim, but where did this all begin? I just would love to hear a little bit about Kim Dennis, young girl,

Kim Dennis  30:24  
I think my mom's dad, my grand my maternal grandfather. I believe, okay, he loved to be 94 he was a beautiful man. I never saw him do anything, but they're British based, so they used to flip him a teacup every once in a while. And I guess every once in a while, he would say something profound and knock it out of the park, you know, and and so I best my best guess, if it runs into my family, I probably get it from my English, Irish roots on my maternal grandfather, but I was born this way. So what does that look like? My first ever indication that there was, I didn't grow up with any religion, so my first indication that there was something more than this physical world. Was when I was growing up in Scarborough, Ontario, my best friend, Maureen, we were inseparable. She lived across the street from me, but she was a Catholic girl and I wasn't, and the only time we were apart was when she went to school and went to church. And I don't she doesn't remember this, but I asked her, or she told me, I don't know how it started, that if you ask God, that was her word for something. He'll give it to you. And I was like, she was my best friend. She's Catholic, she goes to church. She would know, right? So I totally believed her. And I started asking for little things at five and six years old, like, I don't want to go to the dentist tomorrow. Got rebooked. It got rebooked. I want my grandma to come and see my new bedroom that we had done. She never came to our house. The next day, my dad was picking them up and bringing them to my house. So it was all these little things. I was like, wow, Maureen was right, right? And and that was my first indication that there was something more than this world around for one year. I'm not sure about this year, I was eight years old. I had often lucid dreams where I couldn't wake up, but I was between here and that world. But the thing about that year was my parents separated for a year, and that could have been trauma as well, too. We lived I didn't see my father and stuff like that, so that could have been part of it. So but then to skip to when I'm nothing until I'm 13 years old, I come home from track and field early during the week. I'm 13 years old. It's two o'clock in the afternoon. Have a sleep, have my first out of body experience, yeah, and I, and it was the beginning of almost daily, nightly, if I had a nap, daily out of body experiences. And like, I had so many, and only twice did I go to a higher place.

Sarah Burke  32:37  
So what does that mean? What's the out of body

Kim Dennis  32:39  
I looked like myself, but I was translucent, but I looked just like myself, like myself, and I had control over my movements, but if I just relaxed myself, it was weird. I was drawn to one corner of my bedroom, and then I pulled myself back, and this was my first experience, and then I was just drawn to another, and then I would just pull myself back, because I didn't know what would be beyond my house. I was I wasn't really afraid, but I was like, What the heck is going on? And then at some point, I just sort of floated around my room. I would look at myself, I'm like, What the heck? And I was just sleeping peacefully. Even though I was not in there, I was just sleeping peacefully, yeah. And then at some point, my mom opened my bedroom door, and I came back into myself, woke up, and that was my first one, and they help. They happen so often. And like I said, I had so many except for twice, which I did. I believe I visited heaven. All I did was float around my house and stuff like that and see myself sleeping. I have a younger brother, and I remember I would never hear anything, but I remember going into his bedroom and I could hear his fish tanks, really, where I don't, yeah, um, but that was the only thing I ever heard. But twice, I did visit, I did visit heaven. So, long story short, if you want, I can talk about that. But then, at 23 I had my first child, Ashley, and they stopped. They just stopped. And I think, yeah, I wish I journaled. I wish I had written this stuff down. And when I look back, I mean, maybe it was I was sleep deprived new mom or what it was, but they stopped, and I was the bank teller for Canada trust when I went on mat leave. So when she was a toddler, I went back a couple evenings a week, and I didn't I have body out of body experiences every once in a while, but they kind of stopped, and then the intuition face kicked in. And then for a number of years, I was just picking up so much useless information, but I had no business knowing it. You know, I knew what my girlfriend, she cut her hand that morning. I was talking to her on the phone. I knew somebody else I would I worked in sunbridge Mall in a bank, and I couldn't see the parking lot, but I would sense clients and write down their name, Jan, and he'd walk in the door. I used to play a game with a girl that worked there, and I was like, and she was like, how did you do that? Was like, I don't know, yeah. And it just got stronger and stronger and stronger until I just couldn't ignore it anymore. And I just said, I don't know what this is, or what you want me to do with it, or whatever, but you need to show me. And then it just kind of fell into place after that.

Jann Arden  34:59  
It's been. An incredible journey. And you know, you look around at your house and your things, and you're raising your children, and all those things you've done that with this amazing gift that obviously you face a lot of scrutiny and you face skepticism. Yeah, this is the world in which we live. So people are always trying to dispel what you do. So how do you deal with that? And I know you and I, and actually, the three, the four of us, have talked about that before, about skepticism. Well,

Kim Dennis  35:28  
you know, I get, I accept, a long time ago, this isn't for everybody, just like a lot of stuff, it isn't, it isn't for everybody. Um, most people who are skeptics. I charge a fee for reading, so don't bother. You know, they don't. So most people come I mean, they can be skeptics. Most people are. I would be too. Is like, okay, let's just see what she does or whatever that's there's that's healthy skepticism, right? I would be as well, too. But people who really think that this is a bunch of, you know, nonsense or something like that, they don't usually bother with me. They might put something on my Facebook or something, but, but I feel people fear what they don't understand. But for the most part, those people just don't bother and seek me out. Every once in a while, I get some poor husband that's been dragged to me because this wife came. He doesn't want to be here. I'm like, buddy, go out to the truck. You know, this isn't for everybody, but, you know, yeah, I get that, yeah. And I was just like, oh, this is a scam. Or, like, guaranteed, I haven't read for you. And they're like, No, I'm like, Okay,

Jann Arden  36:24  
well, you've been pleasantly surprised. I bet too you have clients come in, whether they've lost somebody. They're looking for answers. There's a little bit of therapy involved in what you do, which I think is really magical and important too. Because, like I said, it can be a simple sentence, but you can really, really change people's you know, their trajectory. Have you ever had a reading that is a bust for you, Kim, that you feel like you and the client just did not hit on anything? Yeah,

Kim Dennis  36:54  
for sure. I mean, every once. It doesn't happen very often, but for sure, I'm human. It's some people. Personalities don't clash your way. It doesn't happen very often, but every once in a while that there's just somebody that I just can't, yeah, that I just can't pick anything up on. But it doesn't happen very often, and I just give them the money back.

Sarah Burke  37:12  
And sometimes, is it that they're not open minded?

Kim Dennis  37:15  
I think so I don't want to. I mean, I'm not always on the ball, but usually, usually, I can reflect and go, Well, I did three readings today already, and they went, they went well, and I had no problem. So yeah, sometimes, sometimes it's a bit of an attitude or something like that. But some people, I have had, some women, come in though, I just nobody can read me. I'm like, oh, so it doesn't matter. So they'll just say, you know, you're going to have a hard time. Nobody can read me. I'm like, I'm sure you're very special. But because they kind of to they're not going to even kind of filter or consider anything that I'm seeing. So I do get, I do get people like that, not very often, but yeah, they'll tell me that right away nobody can read me. And I'm like, Well, do

Caitlin Green  37:52  
the relatives of the people who you read like the the people who've crossed over, are they usually trying to send kind of a specific message about the direction of their life, or warn them against something, or they really just trying to be like, hello,

Kim Dennis  38:03  
all of the above. Yeah, all of the above. It's all All readings kind of have an element of that, all that stuff in it, and some more than others. You know somebody's coming if they lost their child or whatever it was, primarily because they want to hear from their their child that crossed over or whatever. But it's all part of it, but just some more than others. So yeah, should

Sarah Burke  38:23  
we ask him what we already said that she's going to do for our Patreon people, we sort of decided we would love to do a contest with you, but we have to run it by you first.

Unknown Speaker  38:32  
Okay. Okay.

Sarah Burke  38:34  
Would you consider,

Jann Arden  38:35  
I mean, I will pay for the reading, but I was hoping, no, no, no, I would, because for whatever, and I already said this to the girls on a call a couple few days ago, and our entire audience, I would love to pay for and the entire audience, no, no, I'll donate one, I was just gonna say, but I'll donate to you, and you donate to whoever you want. But we would love for our Patreon people to have a chance to have an opportunity to have a reading with you, like maybe something special for for Halloween, It'd

Kim Dennis  39:04  
be my pleasure to do that. Well,

Jann Arden  39:05  
we love having you on the show. You know you know that, and I would be remiss if we didn't ask you about the event that you have coming up. I know about it because obviously I'm following it on social media as well. But my friend Nadine, who looks after Poppy for me, her dear friend Darlene, are both going to see your event. So tell us a little bit about what that is. How many people are going? Yeah,

Kim Dennis  39:25  
the deer foot Casino. Yeah, different casino, yeah. October 30 through one, oh, 3.1 Yeah. They're they're putting it on for me. So all the proceeds, there's a small percentage going to the the casino, but most of the proceeds are going to the veterans food bank. So I'm not taking a fee for it or anything like that and donating my time. So So yeah, it's October 30. You can go onto their website to get tickets if you want. And like I said, it's, I think it's $33 and change. And $3 is going to something, but the $30 is going to the veterans food bank. So I'm trying

Sarah Burke  39:59  
to. Understand what you would do on a stage. Like, when, when you're doing something like this, like, do you pick up? Do you, like, pick people from the audience? Okay, okay,

Kim Dennis  40:06  
yeah, yeah, that's what I do want to the women show and stuff. Like, I'll just pick people up. They're going to be in the audience as well, too. So I haven't got they'll probably, if people want to ask a question or whatnot, is

Jann Arden  40:15  
it a cacophony? Like, is it shit coming at you? Like, ah, there

Kim Dennis  40:19  
is, yeah. But, you know, yeah. But they seem to be able to, I know they're they got it together up there way more than I do. But yeah, when I do, like, events and that stuff, they usually it's just like they I can hone in for the most part.

Sarah Burke  40:30  
So very cool, yeah, do you tell like, a scary story to kick it off or anything?

Kim Dennis  40:34  
I said to them, I was like, I've got so many, I got so many stories. I got a real cool one for Remembrance Day. I don't know if you guys have time or whatever. I

Jann Arden  40:41  
would love that. Why don't we leave with that? And once again, I want to say, Kim Dennis, you can go on to her Facebook. It's, it's clairvoyant, Kim. We'll have it in the show notes. And please, if you're not in the Calgary area, I believe Kim is quite happy to do things by phone.

Sarah Burke  40:54  
Spirits can be anywhere at any time. Yeah, phone meetings, telephone readings work

Jann Arden  40:59  
really well. So yeah, just, just make sure you do that there. It's a great gift. And you know, for people that you think need that little lift, it is, I

Kim Dennis  41:07  
hope I trigger healing, and you know, it to help them heal, they, know, recover from trauma or from a loved ones crossing over or whatever. Yeah, that's what I Yeah. So story time. Okay, so back in May, I'm doing, I'm doing a reading for out of town by Red Deer. And these two sisters come for a reading so and in the reading, they sit together. Their mom had passed away just recently. And in the reading, I don't remember all of it because I didn't know it was going to be this significant. But I get a soldier, and I get medals, a soldier and medals. And at first they're like, it's not really jiving. And then they go, Oh my gosh. And I'm like, what? And they said, yesterday, the day before they which was May 28 they said they were clean. Their dad's still alive. They were cleaning out their mom's desk, and they found these metals with a document in them, right? And and they turned to their dad and said, whose metals are these? And she he said, Oh, I forgot about that around 1965 your mom found him on a Greyhound bus in Calgary, right? So there's metals and there's a document, right? So I so I said to them. I was like, no charge, but I love genealogy. I said I they would want it to find the owner of them, right? So I said, Give me, take a picture of them, send it to me, and I'll see what I can do. So the document said um, Alan John mantle on it. And, and I've just figured on the side of the medals, it said, AJ mantle, right? So I figured that they are both the same person. So, so I get this Alan John mantle, and he was in the Merchant Marine in Australia. So I go on ancestry. He was born in England, and I trace him, and I, and I, what I find is I find his wife, who's 99 years old, still alive in Australia, yeah, and her, I call her, so she says, I said, I'm calling from Canada. I give her all this and and so then she's like, dumbfounded. I said he was born in England and in Australia. Said, was he in Canada in the 60s, and she kept saying he could have been anywhere. So I don't know what that meant, but she kept saying he could have been anywhere. So later that day, it's Australia, her son phones, and he says, we're, you know, Bob snuck he just says that you have these metals and stuff. So I sent him a copy of it, a photo. He phones me the next day, and he says, I don't think these are my dad's. He said he was never in the Canadian military. And I said the middle one's an honorary one. So a lot of the merchant marines, they weren't really military. They go around and help the allies who needed help in the Navy. So I said he may have got that my cousin's in the military. He kind of filled me in, and he's like, Gee, and he said the spelling of Allen is different. And I'm like, well, that can happen as well too. So he's convinced it's not so. So then I go back to the medals, and I send them off to the the history museum, a picture of them and their World War One medals of an Arthur John mantle and the documents and Alan John mantle. The Arthur John mantle was from the First World War. There's three medals, and the middle one was a voluntary one from volunteering the Second World War. So, so I found out that the document actually did belong to the guy in Australia that's on its way there. So then the medals, this guy, Arthur John mantle, um, he didn't have any children. I tracked him down. And anyways, I found his niece, who's 97 years old, and Bolton on chariot, yeah. And like, the medals were returned to her, wow, right? Returned to her. So, yeah. And the funny, there's a couple things. The funny thing is, is they came to see me on May 29 right? And they found the medals on May 28 Alan John mantle's birthday is may 28 uh, 1920 so it's actually his 100 and fourth birthday, goosebumps city. It was actually when I when I first made the first connection. This is my The next thing I got to do is neither family know each other. So Alan John mantle doesn't know anything about an Arthur John mantle and Arthur John mantles finally doesn't know about Alan John mantle in Australia. So my next project, when I get five minutes, I'm going to build a family tree for both of them. I. See if they're connected somewhere.

Jann Arden  45:01  
It's so strange that document with the same last name, those metals like

Kim Dennis  45:07  
So Alan John mantle was in the Second World War, and he was born in England, and he he immigrated at five to Australia, and he joined the merchant navy. So we don't know why we get the Arthur John mantle, he lived in Calgary and he lived in BC, so that makes sense. But why is this document with a guy with a similar name from the Second World War and neither family know each other? It's weird, but there has to be a

Jann Arden  45:30  
connection. I'm mind boggled that you're finding fucking these women that are 97 and 99 years old, 97 that are like, what the hell I mean?

Kim Dennis  45:39  
I know she's like, in Bolton, Ontario, her husband was the pharmacist. There. I how I tracked down, I found an obituary, right? And, and I found the funeral home, and I said, Do you know Becky Smith, right? I don't think she might remind me saying her name. She was like, Oh yeah, her husband was the pharmacist. She lives up the hill. And I'm like, really? And she's like, Yeah, she still lives. So that was the closest next to Kim, the the girls, the sisters, mailed off the medals, and they have them, and she gave them to this Becky gave them to her son, who was in the military as well too. So that's crazy. That's from 1964 65 they were sitting in a

Jann Arden  46:12  
drawer. But it's almost like the mantle boys needed your assistance to facilitate whatever this was

Kim Dennis  46:20  
the first little search I did on Alan John mounts, because that was the number I the name I had that was like may 28 and that was the that was the date that they found them, which was the day before they come to me on the 29th for reading. And then this kind of on this unfold,

Caitlin Green  46:33  
the date thing is weird too, because, like I our son passed away, and he passed away on the same day that my grandmother's firstborn son did in Toronto.

Kim Dennis  46:43  
No such thing as a coincidence. I don't know why everything happens the way it does, but I don't believe in

Caitlin Green  46:47  
luck. I don't believe and I never knew that. And then my and my my mom or my my grandmother lost her first son, I think he was four years old, and it wasn't really talked about much, like back then, and so the family didn't really speak about it that much. And then when our son passed away, everyone in the family was on in a group chat, and my one of my aunts made the connection and said, That's the day John died, because he was there from Pei and he was brought to Toronto for heart surgery, and he died in the operating room. And so all my aunts start piecing this together and going like, Oh my gosh. And they waited, they waited, like, six months to tell me, because they were like, We don't want to overwhelm her. But that date thing is strange. And the other thing was our son who passed away. His name was Sam, and we did a genealogy thing. We flew out to see my husband's grandmother in Edmonton, and she keeps records of everything, like, has it all. So she did a genealogy poll on their family, Bodnar chucks, or her husband's family name, and they date all the way back to Ukraine. I think it was like, you know, sometime in like the 1700s like they went pretty deep. The first ancestor of Bodnar Chuck's name, the first person they could find where it all starts, is Sam, Bodnar Chuck. And we never, we net. We didn't know

Sarah Burke  47:50  
that that's also my grandfather's name. Just saying,

Caitlin Green  47:53  
Oh, really, it's great name. And his grandmother said to us, I thought I told you that, like, she's like, I thought you knew that. I thought you knew this was, like, a piece of the family's history. And we said we had no it's very cool. Yeah, so those things do like, they do happen a lot. They do

Kim Dennis  48:06  
and they're I like I said, you don't always have to know what the reason is, but I don't believe in I just want to say I one of the best things I ever found out doing my family tree was that my third great grandfather is Samuel Partridge, so I'm really a member of the Partridge Family. So yeah, that was my big I was like, Huh? I was like, Oh my gosh, yeah. So I'm a member of the party, and I have two second cousins Once removed, who are brothers who are on the Jack the Ripper list. No

Caitlin Green  48:32  
way.

Kim Dennis  48:33  
Yeah. Look them up, Daniel and John McCarthy.

Sarah Burke  48:35  
We talked about that on one of our episodes. Caitlin, we can get you caught up there too.

Kim Dennis  48:39  
Okay, yeah, yeah. They're both their two brothers. They own lodging houses. In fact, one of them went down and found Mary Kelly's body. She was the only one that was found in a in a residence, and the other ones were found on the street. But two of the other victims lived in the lodging house. Were Daniel. So the both of them own lodging house. I don't think it's them. I think it's that American guy, but, they are on the Jack the Ripper

Caitlin Green  49:01  
list. That's crazy. Holy

Jann Arden  49:02  
shit. That's a very bizarre part of your lineage. That

Caitlin Green  49:06  
stuff is all very interesting to me, because I do believe there's, like, I believe there's something to it. Oh yeah, everything's

Kim Dennis  49:11  
everybody, and everything is connected. I

Jann Arden  49:13  
think we keep coming back and redoing this, like I do too. I just think I really believe in reincarnation. I think there's just been too many unbelievable stories of people that are still hooked onto that grid that come back as five year olds, and they're like, I'm my sons live in ice Romania, and I need to get back to them. They're like, you know, they're like, 50 year old men. It's crazy.

Kim Dennis  49:38  
I read for this lady years ago. I wouldn't know her fell on her, but she um, she said that when her daughter was little for about a year and a half, she said about four or five times she just kind of looked at her odd and said the same thing to her. She said, I had another mommy before you. She had red hair, and her and my brother died in a house fire. She was remembering a past life. She was the kid. Her daughter at the time she came to sing was like 15 or six. She said she does. Remember any of it, but she told her that same scenario, and she was like, had another mommy before she had red hair, and her and my brother died in a house fire.

Jann Arden  50:06  
That's so specific. I mean, a kid's not gonna lie about that. They're so

Kim Dennis  50:11  
fresh from the other side as well, too. That's why they can see them. Kids usually around four attempts. I feel

Sarah Burke  50:15  
like dogs can see spirits too.

Unknown Speaker  50:18  
Oh yeah,

Sarah Burke  50:18  
they better when you're like, What is this dog looking at? And why is it so facinated? And who is here are you?

Kim Dennis  50:26  
Yeah, that's it. They do. Cats, all animal cats just don't usually react. Yeah, so my dogs can be pretty can be pretty reactive. Actually, I saw my cat was like, was doing this? Like, was playing with something, and there was nothing you're doing that? And I'm like, yeah, what are you doing? Yeah? And I could just, I don't know what she was, but she could see something, yeah. But pets do, yeah, they just have better sense as well. Well,

Jann Arden  50:49  
I hope we stay open to the really whimsical, yeah, you know, unexplainable possibilities of our lives, because it's going to make them a heck of a lot easier going forward. I think, yeah, I think to live in a world that is so static, it doesn't behoove any of us to to stay in a place where whimsy and magic and angels and all those things and you don't have to be religious. I'm not religious at all. I believe

Kim Dennis  51:19  
in a higher power. I think once you Yeah, identity around it, the planet starts to divide. They all think God's on their side. So, I mean, I believe in a higher power.

Caitlin Green  51:27  
It's just not fun to live that way, to be like, so closed off to all that stuff. That's the only way I can describe it. As I'm like, I don't know how else to put this, but like, it's just way less fun and enjoyable to walk through the world without any openness to any of that.

Kim Dennis  51:40  
Yeah, yeah. And just hope the best for others. I mean, we're all connected, you know, let everybody be who they want to be and be happy in their life, because we are all connected. You know, even if you if one person like myself or you change from a good mood, from a bad mood to a good mood, you shift the the vibration of the universe. So, can you imagine if everybody was living the life they want, nobody was judging them. Just leave them alone. Everybody was at peace. Oh my gosh. That affects everybody. That affects everybody. Because we are all connected. We are all connected. We are so let people be who they want to be. Let them find their own peace, their own joy, or whatever. Because, you know, it does, it does affect us, and it's just like negativity as well, too. That's contagious as well,

Jann Arden  52:23  
yep. Well, we're gonna leave it there. Kim Dennis, that's a perfect place to lovely talking to you. Bid you a faux for a while. It always, it's such a pleasure. I always learn something. I know the three of us, just whenever we have you, we just talk about it for weeks. And then she said this, and it reminds us of our own stories that are unusual, that we need someone telling us, No, you're okay, you're fine. You know that's that's not but thank you so much for taking time for us.

Kim Dennis  52:47  
Happy Halloween.

Jann Arden  52:48  
Yeah, happy Halloween, for sure. I'm I look forward to seeing you, and I wish you so much luck on your event. I wish I was home to go see that, but you and I are far overdue for another

Kim Dennis  53:01  
cup of tea for reading. So yeah,

Jann Arden  53:03  
I definitely will, but, but on behalf of the girls and I, thanks so much for for being cool, and we'll let you know Patreon folks about the contest to have a reading. Yes. Kim Dennis, clairvoyant. Kim, you can find her on her socials, and you can find her on the Patreon page, and you can find her a course in our show notes. So Kim Dennis, thank you so much for spending this time with us. It was absolutely fascinating. As usual, we'll see you next time.

Kim Dennis  53:29  
Thank you very much.

Jann Arden  53:29  
Totally. Do you.

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